Comments on: Beer is in the Fridge

By: mcgould

mcgould — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:44:58 +0000

Another comment to Dennis…..

As another “old timer,” Dennis, I think you totally missed the point TJ was making. He even said it was NOT the beer, but the recognition/appreciation factor. Gen. Whys need and want to feel accepted and appreciated. Unlike my generation that felt our paycheck was all the appreciation we needed, Gen Y does not work just for a paycheck. The beer was symbolic. Sure not all companies or employers can offer employees a cold brew at work. Public employers surely cannot. But TJ points out that the beer represented a means of showing employees they “are not automatons whose sole purpose is productivity.” Unlike my generation, Whys are lucky enough to have a life beyond work and can keep a respectable balance to their their life. Forget the beer, show understanding of needs, give recognition and listen to employees and productivity will take care of itself.

By: nathanb

nathanb — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:12:01 +0000

Hi Dennis, I’ve thought about this as well (yea, I’m an old guy too). It’s not ever been a problem for us, but clearly there’s potential; as there is at nearly every office holiday party.

Another interesting side effect of this perk is that it has the benefit of alerting an employer to an employee’s “bad habits.” Anyone who will have one too many in the office is certainly drinking a few too many outside of work. In addition, you must question their judgement and maturity. Maybe not the person you want working for you.

By: Dennis Briscoe

Dennis Briscoe — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:10:21 +0000

From an old-timer who mostly agrees with the sentiments expressed about what makes for a good job/employer (these issues have been true for prior generations, as well) and who thinks a lot about the differences between the generations, I have to comment that the idea of “beer in the fridge” sounds great, until serious reality sets in. All that is needed for such a seemingly great idea to crash is for one or more employees (of any generation) to drink 3 or 4 beers while still at work, get into their cars to drive home, have an accident in which they or someone else gets hurt (or killed), and you can rest assured that not only will the employee at fault be sued but so also will the employer who was negligent in providing the beer to his/her employees prior to them getting into their cars and driving somewhere. So . . . what to do? It is still important to show appreciation to employees in a way they appreciate. But it has also got to be done in a way that can survive such potential problems.

By: nathanb

nathanb — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:02:25 +0000

Hi T.J. I couldn’t agree more that little perks like this are critical to keeping younger folks happy. Being part of an industry that depends largely on twenty-somethings to get the hard work of programming done, I’ve seen quite a few unusual benefits. Employers in silicon valley, where competition for talent is the toughest, have a history of offering the best perks. At BEA, they had foosball tables, PlayStations, electric guitars, and drum sets in their breakroom. Google likely tops the list of employers with premium benefits. At their headquarters in Mountain View, CA employees can get their car washed, or have the oil changed, get a haircut, get their bike repaired, checkout a video, even see a doctor.

My little employer, OpenLogic, can’t afford all that, but we do have a beer fridge in the meeting room that is stocked 7 days a week; which is nice.

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Alcohol Posts » Beer is in the Fridge — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:13:39 +0000

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